It's so damn Cliche...

[viciouschick]

Yeah the class sizes are about the same 30-40 kids. It's ridiculous. That's why they don't have the "time" to dedicate a little more help to one student, so instead they prescribe them some Adderall.

[boutboulman]

Well the accidental overdose is a bit cliche when it's illegal drugs.
But in Heath Ledger's case it was sleeping pills, and it looks about as accidental as deaths ever get.
So while I agree with some of the sentiments posted in this thread, including how ridiculous it is to give 'medicines' to children who don't really need them, let's have some respect for Heath Ledger.
I'm personally quite saddened by it, simply because it's a shame.

[Aero5555]

I'm against continuing discussion on this topic if it turns into a debate about drugs, no good will come outta it, because they'll be pro and anti debates, you guys remember what happened the last time a drug-related topic was discussed?

[viciouschick]

Well, when I first read about it I was really upset. My intentions weren't really to start a thread on drugs in general because I have way too much to say about them. It was more to see how everyone else felt about the situation. I wanted to know if I was the only one who was actually experiencing some emotions about the situation in itself. Like I said, I'm fine with it being deleted. Makes no difference to me.

[piroteki]

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It's true. I've been fighting with my 12 year old brother's school since last year. Everytime he does bad on a math test or something they tell us we should consider putting him on ADHD medications. My brother is very hyper and has a hard time staying focused, but he manages. They don't look at the fact that he got 100 on his vocab test, or that he scored a 8th grade reading level when he was in 5th grade. They are just concerned with his "lack of attention" when he isn't doing well in math. So, I fight with them all the time. Telling them to give me extra homework for him so, I can teach it him myself. Because sometimes you just need a second voice to get something completely you know? Whatever, I didn't mean to ramble on. But, that pisses me off too. Everyone's kid has ADD or ADHD apparently. It's not that they don't like to pay attention to math or homework when they have xbox (sarcasm intended).
[/quote1201113840]good for you!

i am very against the over/misdiagnosing of stuff like that, and the whole "let's just take this pill to fix things" approach. i try to avoid taking medicine (even stuff like for headaches) unless i have to.

i know a couple people who would probably be in the same situation as your brother if they grew up today, and they're some of the smartest people i know.

[viciouschick]

Thanks that gives me some hope. I mean I know he'll be okay. Sometimes I worry about him in highschool because it's soo much easier to not do homework and stuff, but he is a smart kid. Maybe too smart.

[dmcefc]

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I'm against continuing discussion on this topic if it turns into a debate about drugs, no good will come outta it, because they'll be pro and anti debates, you guys remember what happened the last time a drug-related topic was discussed?
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i don't think i've heard any pro comment's towards drugs in the thread

["HUMAN"]

to get back onto the threads original idea: i dont think its fair to say something like that about ledgers death. accidentally or on purpose, suicide is not something to be joked about, or discussed lightly. its not like he was trying to get high on sleeping pills (well, i dont believe that anyway), i assume it was more of a cry for help or a culmination of other factors that just became to much for him.just because hes famous doesnt mean that his life was a joyride. its a great waste of considerable talent.

[viciouschick]

When I first started this thread the only information that was given at that time was "possibly drug related" it didn't say what kind of drugs, and it didn't say anything about "suicide". It was right after they found him and it read "possibly drug related". So, my first thought was overdose from drugs. Which, technically it was. But, I wasn't thinking sleeping pills, and I DEFINITELY wasn't thinking suicide. I thought like so many other celebrities and people in general he died from overdosing while getting some kind of high. I actually doubted at the time that it was intentional. I thought he was getting high and got a little too high and his body gave out. So, I was upset. Upset that yet another person has died from abusing drugs legal or not, prescription or not. I was a little heartless about it towards the end of my statement turning it in to some kind of game, but my general point was expressing my anger about the situation in itself. I wanted to see how everyone else felt about the facts at the time. When I wrote about it in my blog I said "I hope it's not drug related". Because it would have been better to know that he didn't do it to himself... intentionally or not. I was hoping that it wasn't a decision that he made that caused his death, but something out of his control. I definitely don't think that he had a great life, in all actuality I think that famous people have it harder than average joes. They have to deal with the exact same struggles and every day vicissitudes as we do in life, but they are doing it in the limelight. I genuinely feel bad for his family and his death. Regardless of the cause. Maybe it didn't seem that way at first in my post, but I was. Even if I was being rude and tasteless about the situation at first I was only doing so because I was upset about the situation.

[Aero5555]

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i don't think i've heard any pro comment's towards drugs in the thread
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I'm referring to what happened on a previous thread once the floor was opened for that kinda discussion, nothing wrong here, I'm just saying it's best we keep the drug discussion at a minimum and not let it blow outta porportions that's all.